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Episode 2

What is Love?

What is love? It’s one of the biggest questions we could ever ask and this month, in the spirit of Valentine’s Day, we’re diving in. Pastor Grant and Miss Tammy are back on the It’s Life Podcast set alongside Pastor Zach and Jenny, and this conversation is one you are not going to want to miss.

We start where we always have to start, with God. Scripture tells us that God is love, and the greatest demonstration of that love is Jesus. From there, we look at what love actually looks like in practice through the lens of 1 Corinthians 13 — patient, kind, not irritable, not self-seeking. Pastor Grant puts it plainly: try putting your own name in place of the word “love” and see how you measure up. That’s where it gets real for all of us.

From there, Pastor Grant and Miss Tammy share their love story — and it is a good one. Two friends, both in other relationships, doing ministry together at a small church in Georgia. Neither of them saw it coming. Pastor Grant was engaged to someone else. Miss Tammy was in a serious relationship. And yet, God had other plans. What unfolds is a story of prayer, fasting, honesty, and one very bold question asked by a lake and then at a chapel altar and finally in a music suite — “Will you marry me?” — to a woman he had never taken on a date, never held hands with, and never kissed. She said yes. They went on their first date that Friday. They were married by August.

But the love story doesn’t stop at the wedding. We also hear about the hard chapters — a stillbirth, a brain tumor, medical moments that could have broken them. Miss Tammy shares what she learned about grief when they lost their son Christian, and how men and women can walk through loss so differently that you can mistake someone’s strength for not caring. Pastor Grant shares the miraculous medical discovery that a vessel formed in Miss Tammy’s brain before she was even born — sitting dormant, waiting for the moment she would need it. God had already made a way before she ever needed one.

Through all of it, their advice is simple and hard all at the same time: stay close to the Lord, don’t sweat the small stuff, and remember that the vows you made aren’t 50/50 — some days one of you is carrying more, and that’s okay. And for the singles listening, Pastor Grant has a word for you too. Singleness is not a consolation prize. It’s a gift. And the answer to every longing — whether you’re married or not — is not another person. It’s Jesus.

This episode will make you laugh, maybe make you cry, and remind you that real love — the kind that lasts — is built on something far bigger than feelings. Subscribe wherever you listen and share this one with someone you love.